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Re: [Xen-devel] A question no one can answer
- To: "Alan Cox" <alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- From: "Dan Doucette" <doucette.daniel@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:56:37 -0800
- Cc: weiming <zephyr.zhao@xxxxxxxxx>, xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Robert Stober <rstober@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Hello Robert and others,
Below is a link to a presentation given at a conference last summer, where the authors used cache colour allocation schemes to limit L2 cache overuse by an application.
If your goal is to create a fair memory share per-guest (bandwidth or otherwise), you may want to consider the possibility of managing it from a level closer to the CPU.
Dan.
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 5:05 AM, Alan Cox < alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:24:18 -0500
> Weiming, > > I agree that it is very hard, and that no one has done it. But > nevertheless I suggest the following question to the Xen developers: > > Given the fact that memory bandwidth is shared amongst multiple cores on
> a single die, assume that one VM is running on each core. What is to > stop one VM from saturating the memory bus, causing reduced performance > of all the other VMs? This is the general multi-core problem, not
> specific to Xen. But it affects Xen greatly. What use is it to allocate > memory to a VM if it can't use the memory because a process of another > VM has saturated the memory bus?
Its perfectly doable on modern x86 - you use the profiling registers and
set them up so you get a threshold interrupt when too much main memory traffic is counted (which you use to reschedule punishing the memory user). There are research papers on it from quite a long time back but afaik nobody ever implemented it in production although its not too hard
to do so might be an interesting project.
Alan
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