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Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v2 2/2] libxl: Fix nographic with upstream qemu



Tuesday, November 26, 2013, 12:53:09 PM, you wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 08:39:22PM +0100, Sander Eikelenboom wrote:
>> 
>> Monday, November 25, 2013, 8:28:27 PM, you wrote:
>> 
>> > 2013/11/25 Anthony PERARD <anthony.perard@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> 
>> >> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 03:57:09PM +0100, Fabio Fantoni wrote:
>> >> > Fix xl nographic parameter with upstream qemu using vga none
>> >> > instead of -nographic qemu parameter not working anymore and
>> >> > deprecated.
>> >> >
>> >> > Changes from v1:
>> >> > - libxl_create.c:
>> >> >  - add vga=none if nographic=1 only with upstream qemu
>> >> >  - move setdefault of nographic up, otherwise xl create will
>> >> >    fail if nographic xl paramter is not set
>> >>
>> >> Could you tell me where it is said that -nographic is deprecated?
>> >>
>> 
>> > On one old qemu-devel post if I remember good, I not found it now with fast
>> > search.
>> 
>> this one of mine:
>> http://osdir.com/ml/xen-development/2013-10/msg00134.html
>> 
>> which refers to a post on qemu-devel:
>> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.qemu/172385

> Thanks for the pointers.

>> >>
>> >> Also, I've did few tests, and it look like nographic=1 still works well.
>> >>
>> 
>> > When I did a tests time ago with upstream qemu gave always cirrus vga with
>> > hvm domUs, also with vga and stdvga not setted and nographic on.
>> > Tried also removing my patches about -nodefaults but same result.
>> > When I did this patches I found that xl setted cirrus in any case and also
>> > with -nographic with upstream qemu not override -vga or -device.
>> 
>> 
>> >>
>> >> In QEMU, "-vga none" and "-nographic" are two different things. The
>> >> first parameter disable the graphic emulation, which mean you can have a
>> >> guest without graphic card (lspci will show that). The second one is to
>> >> disable any graphic output (sdl, vnc, ...).
>> >>
>> >> The only issue might be the documentation.
>> >>
>> 
>> > Sorry, about qemu traditional I haven't well documented, but on this patch
>> > I setted nographic equivalent to vga none only with upstream qemu, so the
>> > qemu-trad remain correctly.
>> > Another note, I use spice with upstream qemu instead of vnc (because is
>> > largely better), probably -nographic not disable it.
>> 
>> > Sumarizing, previous patch about vga none after new version following your
>> > advice can be useful in any case.
>> > About nographic instead I am doubtful about how to proceed, I think,
>> > however that an improvements and/or more documentations are needed.
>> > Ideas or tips about nographic?


> After reading those threads about nographic deprecation, it is said that
> it is better to use '-display none' instead of '-nographic'.
> So '-display none' just mean you get no VNC, no SDL window, no SPICE,
> nothing, but you can still get a graphic card in the guest, with no way
> to display its output.

> I suppose 'nographic' xl options should keep the same effect which is no
> graphic output. So if you want a guest without graphic card, then your
> new 'vga=none' will be for you.

Wouldn't it be more natural to do just
vnc=0
sdl=0
vga=none

if i want no graphics?

Instead of making a "meta-option" which overrules other available options ?
Would simplify the parsing for libxl as well.

--
Sander


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