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On 02/10/15 18:52, Juergen Gross wrote: > On 10/02/2015 07:43 PM, Wei Liu wrote: >> Hi all >> >> As I understand it in the past there were discussions on release every >> 6 months. I would like to revisit this topic. >> >> # Rationale for a shorter release cycle >> >> The current 9 months cadence is too long. That create at least two >> problems for us. >> >> The first problem is that Xen delivers features much slower than other >> projects. Linux kernel releases every 3 months. QEMU releases every 4 >> months. They deliver new features at a much higher frequency. >> >> The second problem is that the opportunity cost for vendors to miss a >> release is very high. When combined with the freeze exception scheme, >> tension quickly builds up around cut-off point, which creates >> frictions and frustrations for both contributors and maintainers. This >> is detrimental to the project in the long run. >> >> Having a shorter release cycle plus some other measures seem to make >> sense. >> >> The main objection from previous discussion seems to be that "shorter >> release cycle creates burdens for downstream projects". I couldn't >> quite get the idea, but I think we can figure out a way to sort that >> out once we know what exactly the burdens are. >> >> A side note is that if we really go down this route we need to stick >> with it for a few releases to let people get used to it. Any change to >> the release process is going to cause some issues. >> >> # Proposed release cycle >> >> Aim for 6 months release cycle -- 4 months development period, 2 >> months hardening period. Make two releases per year. >> >> Fixed hard cut-off date, no more freeze exception. Arrange RCs >> immediately after cut-off. >> >> Take into account holiday seasons in US, Europe and China, the two >> cut-off dates are the Fridays in which that last day of March and >> September are in. >> >> Targeted release date is two months after cut-off date. Still, we pick >> a Friday using the same rule. We can also release a bit earlier if >> everything goes well. If we somehow fail to release on time, we eat >> into next development cycle. The next cut-off date will still be >> fixed. >> >> With the proposed scheme, the dates will be: >> >> - 4.7 cut-off date: April 1, 2016 >> - 4.7 release date: June 1, 2016 >> >> - 4.8 cut-off date: September 30, 2016 >> - 4.8 release date: December 2, 2016 >> >> - 4.9 cut-off date: March 31, 2017 >> - 4.9 release date: June 2, 2017 >> >> and it goes on. >> >> # Feasibility analysis >> >> Xen 4.6 is almost out of the door. I think it's convenient to use it >> as one >> data point about how we can achieve the proposed plan. >> >> Xen 4.6 release time line broken down: >> >> - developemnt: 6 months >> - consideration for freeze exception: 1 week >> - applying patches with free exception: 1 week >> - fix major bugs: 2 weeks >> - RCs: every 1 to 2 weeks >> >> We aimed for a 9 months release cycle. That means we have 3 months for >> stabilisation and RCs. >> >> Note that the 2 weeks used to fix bugs were mostly for bugs introduced >> during free exception. >> >> The riddance of freeze exception saves us at least the first 2 weeks. >> And because there are less changes due to shorter development cycle and >> no freeze exception, there are probably less bugs, which means we can >> potentially save another week or two. So the 6 months time line is >> realistic to achieve. > > Expecting less bugs due to a shorter development cycle is strange. I'd > expect more bugs as large features have less time to be stabilized. Or > are you expecting only small features in the future? I don't hope so. The expectation is that with a shorter release cycle, there will be less pressure to push large series in at the last minute, as deferring them to the next release comes with a substantially smaller penalty. As a result, large series will (hopefully) be better baked when they do get accepted. ~Andrew _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
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