[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] Re: [Xen-devel] RFC: change to 6 months release cycle
On Fri, 2015-10-02 at 19:21 +0100, Andrew Cooper wrote: > On 02/10/15 18:52, Juergen Gross wrote: > > On 10/02/2015 07:43 PM, Wei Liu wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > > > As I understand it in the past there were discussions on release > > > every > > > 6 months. I would like to revisit this topic. > > > > > > # Rationale for a shorter release cycle > > > > > > The current 9 months cadence is too long. That create at least two > > > problems for us. > > > > > > The first problem is that Xen delivers features much slower than > > > other > > > projects. Linux kernel releases every 3 months. QEMU releases every 4 > > > months. They deliver new features at a much higher frequency. > > > > > > The second problem is that the opportunity cost for vendors to miss a > > > release is very high. When combined with the freeze exception scheme, > > > tension quickly builds up around cut-off point, which creates > > > frictions and frustrations for both contributors and maintainers. > > > This > > > is detrimental to the project in the long run. > > > > > > Having a shorter release cycle plus some other measures seem to make > > > sense. > > > > > > The main objection from previous discussion seems to be that "shorter > > > release cycle creates burdens for downstream projects". I couldn't > > > quite get the idea, but I think we can figure out a way to sort that > > > out once we know what exactly the burdens are. > > > > > > A side note is that if we really go down this route we need to stick > > > with it for a few releases to let people get used to it. Any change > > > to > > > the release process is going to cause some issues. > > > > > > # Proposed release cycle > > > > > > Aim for 6 months release cycle -- 4 months development period, 2 > > > months hardening period. Make two releases per year. > > > > > > Fixed hard cut-off date, no more freeze exception. Arrange RCs > > > immediately after cut-off. > > > > > > Take into account holiday seasons in US, Europe and China, the two > > > cut-off dates are the Fridays in which that last day of March and > > > September are in. > > > > > > Targeted release date is two months after cut-off date. Still, we > > > pick > > > a Friday using the same rule. We can also release a bit earlier if > > > everything goes well. If we somehow fail to release on time, we eat > > > into next development cycle. The next cut-off date will still be > > > fixed. > > > > > > With the proposed scheme, the dates will be: > > > > > > - 4.7 cut-off date: April 1, 2016 > > > - 4.7 release date: June 1, 2016 > > > > > > - 4.8 cut-off date: September 30, 2016 > > > - 4.8 release date: December 2, 2016 > > > > > > - 4.9 cut-off date: March 31, 2017 > > > - 4.9 release date: June 2, 2017 > > > > > > and it goes on. > > > > > > # Feasibility analysis > > > > > > Xen 4.6 is almost out of the door. I think it's convenient to use it > > > as one > > > data point about how we can achieve the proposed plan. > > > > > > Xen 4.6 release time line broken down: > > > > > > - developemnt: 6 months > > > - consideration for freeze exception: 1 week > > > - applying patches with free exception: 1 week > > > - fix major bugs: 2 weeks > > > - RCs: every 1 to 2 weeks > > > > > > We aimed for a 9 months release cycle. That means we have 3 months > > > for > > > stabilisation and RCs. > > > > > > Note that the 2 weeks used to fix bugs were mostly for bugs > > > introduced > > > during free exception. > > > > > > The riddance of freeze exception saves us at least the first 2 weeks. > > > And because there are less changes due to shorter development cycle > > > and > > > no freeze exception, there are probably less bugs, which means we can > > > potentially save another week or two. So the 6 months time line is > > > realistic to achieve. > > > > Expecting less bugs due to a shorter development cycle is strange. I'd > > expect more bugs as large features have less time to be stabilized. Or > > are you expecting only small features in the future? I don't hope so. > > The expectation is that with a shorter release cycle, there will be less > pressure to push large series in at the last minute, as deferring them > to the next release comes with a substantially smaller penalty. As a > result, large series will (hopefully) be better baked when they do get > accepted. Right, essentially this is reducing average the latency between acceptance of a feature and the release which contains it, hopefully relieving some of the pressure to get something in right away. Obviously anything which would have gone in during the final 3 months of a 9 month release cycle will now be in the first 3 months of the next one, bu t there is absolutely no implication on the size of an acceptable feature. Ian. _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
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