Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v3 3/3] tools: introduce parameter max_wp_ram_ranges.

["Yu, Zhang" <yu.c.zhang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks for your reply, Ian.

On 2/2/2016 1:05 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Yu, Zhang writes ("Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v3 3/3] tools: introduce parameter 
> max_wp_ram_ranges."):
> > On 2/2/2016 12:35 AM, Jan Beulich wrote:
> > > On 01.02.16 at 17:19, <yu.c.zhang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > So, we need also validate this param in hvm_allow_set_param,
> > > > current although hvm_allow_set_param has not performed any
> > > > validation other parameters. We need to do this for the new
> > > > ones. Is this understanding correct?
> > > Yes.
> > >
> > > > Another question is: as to the tool stack side, do you think
> > > > an error message would suffice? Shouldn't xl be terminated?
> > > I have no idea what consistent behavior in such a case would
> > > be - I'll defer input on this to the tool stack maintainers.
> > Thank you.
> > Wei, which one do you prefer?
> I think that arrangements should be made for the hypercall failure to
> be properly reported to the caller, and properly logged.
>
> I don't think it is desirable to duplicate the sanity check in
> xl/libxl/libxc.  That would simply result in there being two limits to
> update.
Sorry, I do not follow. What does "being two limits to update" mean?

> I have to say, though, that the situation with this parameter seems
> quite unsatisfactory.  It seems to be a kind of bodge.
By "situation with this parameter", do you mean:
a> the introduction of this parameter in tool stack, or
b> the sanitizing for this parameter(In fact I'd prefer not to treat
the check of this parameter as a sanitizing, cause it only checks
the input against 4G to avoid data missing from uint64 to uint32
assignment in hvm_ioreq_server_alloc_rangesets)?



> The changeable limit is there to prevent excessive resource usage by a
> guest.  But the docs suggest that the excessive usage might be
> normal.  That sounds like a suboptimal design to me.
Yes, there might be situations that this limit be set to some large
value. But I that situation would be very rare. Like the docs
suggested, for XenGT, 8K is a big enough one for most cases.

> For reference, here is the docs proposed in this patch:
>
>    =item B<max_wp_ram_ranges=N>
>
>    Limit the maximum write-protected ram ranges that can be tracked
>    inside one ioreq server rangeset.
>
>    Ioreq server uses a group of rangesets to track the I/O or memory
>    resources to be emulated. Default limit of ranges that one rangeset
>    can allocate is set to a small value, due to the fact that these
>    ranges are allocated in xen heap. Yet for the write-protected ram
>    ranges, there are circumstances under which the upper limit inside
>    one rangeset should exceed the default one. E.g. in Intel GVT-g,
>    when tracking the PPGTT(per-process graphic translation tables) on
>    Intel broadwell platforms, the number of page tables concerned will
>    be of several thousand.
>
>    For Intel GVT-g broadwell platform, 8192 is a suggested value for
>    this parameter in most cases. But users who set his item explicitly
>    are also supposed to know the specific scenarios that necessitate
>    this configuration. Especially when this parameter is used:
>    1> for virtual devices other than vGPU in GVT-g;
>    2> for GVT-g, there also might be some extreme cases, e.g. too many
>    graphic related applications in one VM, which create a great deal of
>    per-process graphic translation tables;
>    3> for GVT-g, future cpu platforms which provide even more per-process
>    graphic translation tables.
>
> Having said that, if the hypervisor maintainers are happy with a
> situation where this value is configured explicitly, and the
> configurations where a non-default value is required is expected to be
> rare, then I guess we can live with it.
>
> Ian.
>
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Thanks
Yu

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