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Re: [Xen-devel] [RFC 1/3] xen/balloon: Allow allocating DMA buffers



On 05/21/2018 11:36 PM, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
On 05/21/2018 03:13 PM, Oleksandr Andrushchenko wrote:
On 05/21/2018 09:53 PM, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
On 05/21/2018 01:32 PM, Oleksandr Andrushchenko wrote:
On 05/21/2018 07:35 PM, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
On 05/21/2018 01:40 AM, Oleksandr Andrushchenko wrote:
On 05/19/2018 01:04 AM, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
On 05/17/2018 04:26 AM, Oleksandr Andrushchenko wrote:
From: Oleksandr Andrushchenko <oleksandr_andrushchenko@xxxxxxxx>
A commit message would be useful.
Sure, v1 will have it
Signed-off-by: Oleksandr Andrushchenko
<oleksandr_andrushchenko@xxxxxxxx>

         for (i = 0; i < nr_pages; i++) {
-        page = alloc_page(gfp);
-        if (page == NULL) {
-            nr_pages = i;
-            state = BP_EAGAIN;
-            break;
+        if (ext_pages) {
+            page = ext_pages[i];
+        } else {
+            page = alloc_page(gfp);
+            if (page == NULL) {
+                nr_pages = i;
+                state = BP_EAGAIN;
+                break;
+            }
             }
             scrub_page(page);
             list_add(&page->lru, &pages);
@@ -529,7 +565,7 @@ static enum bp_state
decrease_reservation(unsigned long nr_pages, gfp_t gfp)
         i = 0;
         list_for_each_entry_safe(page, tmp, &pages, lru) {
             /* XENMEM_decrease_reservation requires a GFN */
-        frame_list[i++] = xen_page_to_gfn(page);
+        frames[i++] = xen_page_to_gfn(page);
       #ifdef CONFIG_XEN_HAVE_PVMMU
             /*
@@ -552,18 +588,22 @@ static enum bp_state
decrease_reservation(unsigned long nr_pages, gfp_t gfp)
     #endif
             list_del(&page->lru);
     -        balloon_append(page);
+        if (!ext_pages)
+            balloon_append(page);
So what you are proposing is not really ballooning. You are just
piggybacking on existing interfaces, aren't you?
Sort of. Basically I need to {increase|decrease}_reservation, not
actually
allocating ballooned pages.
Do you think I can simply EXPORT_SYMBOL for
{increase|decrease}_reservation?
Any other suggestion?
I am actually wondering how much of that code you end up reusing. You
pretty much create new code paths in both routines and common code
ends
up being essentially the hypercall.
Well, I hoped that it would be easier to maintain if I modify existing
code
to support both use-cases, but I am also ok to create new routines if
this
seems to be reasonable - please let me know
    So the question is --- would it make
sense to do all of this separately from the balloon driver?
This can be done, but which driver will host this code then? If we
move from
the balloon driver, then this could go to either gntdev or grant-table.
What's your preference?
A separate module?
Is there any use for this feature outside of your zero-copy DRM driver?
Intel's hyper dma-buf (Dongwon/Matt CC'ed), V4L/GPU at least.

At the time I tried to upstream zcopy driver it was discussed and
decided that
it would be better if I remove all DRM specific code and move it to
Xen drivers.
Thus, this RFC.

But it can also be implemented as a dedicated Xen dma-buf driver which
will have all the
code from this RFC + a bit more (char/misc device handling at least).
This will also require a dedicated user-space library, just like
libxengnttab.so
for gntdev (now I have all new IOCTLs covered there).

If the idea of a dedicated Xen dma-buf driver seems to be more
attractive we
can work toward this solution. BTW, I do support this idea, but was not
sure if Xen community accepts yet another driver which duplicates
quite some code
of the existing gntdev/balloon/grant-table. And now after this RFC I
hope that all cons
and pros of both dedicated driver and gntdev/balloon/grant-table
extension are
clearly seen and we can make a decision.

IIRC the objection for a separate module was in the context of gntdev
was discussion, because (among other things) people didn't want to have
yet another file in /dev/xen/

Here we are talking about (a new) balloon-like module which doesn't
create any new user-visible interfaces. And as for duplicating code ---
as I said, I am not convinced there is much of duplication.

I might even argue that we should add a new config option for this module.
I am not quite sure I am fully following you here: so, you suggest
that we have balloon.c unchanged, but instead create a new
module (namely a file under the same folder as balloon.c, e.g.
dma-buf-reservation.c) and move those {increase|decrease}_reservation
routines (specific to dma-buf) to that new file? And make it selectable
via Kconfig? If so, then how about the changes to grant-table and gntdev?
Those will look inconsistent then.

If you suggest a new kernel driver module:
IMO, there is nothing bad if we create a dedicated kernel module
(driver) for Xen dma-buf handling selectable under Kconfig option.
Yes, this will create a yet another device under /dev/xen,
but most people will never see it if we set Kconfig to default to "n".
And then we'll need user-space support for that, so Xen tools will
be extended with libxendmabuf.so or so.
This way all Xen dma-buf support can be localized at one place which
might be easier to maintain. What is more it could be totally transparent
to most of us as Kconfig option won't be set by default (both kernel and Xen).

Thank you,
Oleksandr

-boris

-boris
Thank you,
Oleksandr
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https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2018-April/173163.html


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