[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] Re: [PATCH v2] xen/evtchn: Add design for static event channel signaling
Hi Julien > On 10 May 2022, at 1:32 pm, Julien Grall <julien@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi Rahul, > > On 04/05/2022 18:34, Rahul Singh wrote: >> This patch introduces a new feature to support the signaling between >> two domains in dom0less system. >> Signed-off-by: Rahul Singh <rahul.singh@xxxxxxx> >> --- >> v2 changes: >> - switch to the one-subnode-per-evtchn under xen,domain" compatible node. >> - Add more detail about event-channel >> --- >> docs/designs/dom0less-evtchn.md | 126 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Answering here to also keep the history. On IRC, Bertrand was asking whether > we merge design proposal. > > We have merged proposal in the past (e.g. non-cooperative migration) and I > would be ready to do it again as it is easier to find them afterwards. > > However, I wonder whether it would be better to turn this proposal to a > binding change in misc/arm/device-tree/. Any thoughts? I am okay with that. I think are you referring to "docs/misc/arm/device-tree/ “ > >> 1 file changed, 126 insertions(+) >> create mode 100644 docs/designs/dom0less-evtchn.md >> diff --git a/docs/designs/dom0less-evtchn.md >> b/docs/designs/dom0less-evtchn.md >> new file mode 100644 >> index 0000000000..62ec8a4009 >> --- /dev/null >> +++ b/docs/designs/dom0less-evtchn.md >> @@ -0,0 +1,126 @@ >> +# Signaling support between two domUs on dom0less system >> + >> +## Current state: Draft version >> + >> +## Proposer(s): Rahul Singh, Bertrand Marquis >> + >> +## Problem Statement: >> + >> +Dom0less guests would benefit from a statically-defined memory sharing and >> +signally system for communication. One that would be immediately available >> at >> +boot without any need for dynamic configurations. >> + >> +In embedded a great variety of guest operating system kernels exist, many of >> +which don't have support for xenstore, grant table, or other complex >> drivers. > > I am not sure I would consider event channel FIFO a "trival" drivers :). > >> +Some of them are small kernel-space applications (often called "baremetal", >> +not to be confused with the term "baremetal" used in the data center which >> +means "without hypervisors") or RTOSes. Additionally, for safety reasons, >> users >> +often need to be able to configure the full system statically so that it can >> +be verified statically. >> + >> +Event channels are very simple and can be added even to baremetal >> applications. >> +This proposal introduces a way to define them statically to make them >> suitable >> +for dom0less embedded deployments. >> + >> +## Proposal: >> + >> +Event channels are the basic primitive provided by Xen for event >> notifications. >> +An event channel is a logical connection between 2 domains (more >> specifically >> +between dom1,port1, and dom2,port2). Each event has a pending and a masked >> bit. >> +The pending bit indicates the event has been raised. The masked bit is used >> by >> +the domain to prevent the delivery of that specific event. Xen only >> performs a >> +0 → 1 transition on the pending bits and does not touch the mask bit. The > > NIT: I think → is not an ascii character. Can you use "->”? Ack. > >> +domain may toggle masked bits in the masked bit field and should clear the >> +pending bit when an event has been processed >> + >> +Events are received by a domain via an interrupt from Xen to the domain, >> +indicating when an event arrives (setting the bit). Further notifications >> are >> +blocked until the bit is cleared again. Events are delivered asynchronously >> to >> +a domain and are enqueued when the domain is not running. >> +More information about FIFO based event channel can be found at: > > I think the explanation is fine for a design proposal. If you want to use it > as documentation, then I would suggest to clarify there are two different ABI > for event channel: FIFO and 2L. > > 2L is the easiest one to implement and for embedded we may want to steer the > users towards it. I will rephrase the sentence as below: Xen supports two different ABI for event channel FIFO and 2L. More information about FIFO based event channel can be found at: > >> +https://xenbits.xen.org/people/dvrabel/event-channels-H.pdf > > It is quite unfortunate that this wasn't merged in docs/. Oh well, no action > for you here. > >> + >> +The event channel communication will be established statically between two >> +domains (dom0 and domU also) before unpausing the domains after domain >> creation. >> +Event channel connection information between domains will be passed to XEN >> via > > NIT: above you are using "Xen". So s/XEN/Xen/ for consistency. Ack. > >> +the device tree node. The event channel will be created and established >> +beforehand in XEN before the domain started. The domain doesn’t need to do >> any > > Same here. > > NIT: I think "beforehand" and "before" is redundant. Ack. > >> +operation to establish a connection. Domain only needs hypercall >> +EVTCHNOP_send(local port) to send notifications to the remote guest. >> + >> +There is no need to describe the static event channel info in the domU >> device >> +tree. Static event channels are only useful in fully static configurations, >> +and in those configurations the domU device tree dynamically generated by >> Xen >> +is not needed. >> + >> +Under the "xen,domain" compatible node, there need to be sub-nodes with >> +compatible "xen,evtchn" that describe the event channel connection between >> two >> +domains(dom0 and domU also). > > Below you provided an example between two domUs. Can you provide one between > dom0 and a domU? Yes I will provide an example b/w dom0 and domU in next version. > >> + >> +The event channel sub-node has the following properties: >> + >> +- compatible >> + >> + "xen,evtchn" >> + >> +- xen,evtchn >> + >> + The property is tuples of two numbers >> + (local-evtchn link-to-foreign-evtchn) where: >> + >> + local-evtchn is an integer value that will be used to allocate local port >> + for a domain to send and receive event notifications to/from the remote >> + domain. > Port 0 is reserved and both FIFO/2L have limit on the port numbers. > > I think we should let know the users about those limitations but I am not > sure whether the binding is the right place for that. If you are okay I can add this limitation in this design doc. >> + >> + link-to-foreign-evtchn is a single phandle to a remote evtchn to which >> + local-evtchn will be connected. > > I would consider to relax the wording so a user can create an event channel > with the both end in the same domain. > > Implementation wise, it should make no difference as you still need to lookup > the domain. I will rephrase as: link-to-foreign-evtchn is a single phandle to a foreign evtchn to which local-evtchn will be connected. Regards, Rahul
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