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[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working
Hi Dustin, I used a windows XP with SP2 EN to reinstall my domu. I installed the 0.9.11pre13 package, this produces the same errors as with my other windows XP version. I also tried the 0.9.10 version, which produced also the same results. I'm at a loss here. Apparently the problem isn't the windows version. My collegue-vmware specialist is laughing his ass off at the moment :-( . Kindest regards, Peter. On Friday 22 August 2008 17:38:14 Dustin Henning wrote: > Peter, > Regarding installing SP1a and SP2, it may be possible to go directly > to SP2 (unless you are referring to.net 2.0 service packs and not WinXP > service packs), but I don't remember for sure, and this wouldn't affect your > problem, it's just a thought for future reference. > It is possible that the drivers don't work with your version of > Windows, and that seems more likely than them not working with host setup, > but I don't know enough about either to say so definitively. It seems to me > like WinXP would work and be built the same for Dutch and English, as I > would think it would only be drastically different for extended languages > (like Chinese) and countries that have US export restrictions on encryption > or something, but I really don't know. I can also tell you that I tried > several versions (either I started at 0.8.9, or 0.8.9 was the first version > that worked at all in my environment, so I deleted all previous ones) before > it worked for me. During that time, other people were using the drivers > successfully, so when 0.9.11 is no longer pre, and when 0.9.12 et all come > out, I would try again. That said, perhaps James can work with you on > getting an existing version to work, as determining what is causing your > problem may help in resolving other issues as well. > Dustin > > -----Original Message----- > From: xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Van Biesen > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 07:27 > To: xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > Hi Dustin, > > an update : > > - I reinstalled windows XP > - added SP1a an SP2 ( this is necessary for .net 2.0 ) > > On a snapshot, I installed 0.9.11pre12. All drivers have an exclamation > mark. > > I reverted to SP2 and installed 0.9.10. Windows hangs on the splash screen. > > The only thing I can conclude is that the gplpv drivers do not work with my > specific version of windows xp. Is it because it is a dutch version ? A > specific build ? Is this possible ( I'm a complete windows novice ) ? > > Kindest regards, > > Peter. > > On Wednesday 20 August 2008 14:48:10 Dustin Henning wrote: > > Peter, > > I would most definitely try rebuilding if you have the time. It is > > possible that following the cleanup steps from the wiki might work, but I > > never had much luck with them. After a rebuild, I would set up a > snapshot, > > try 0.9.10 again, and wait for the add new hardware windows to disappear > (I > > don't know if this should happen in 0.9.11-preX as well or not), hopefully > > at this point, all of the drivers work. The xenvbd driver is the disk > > driver, so if it isn't working right, it's no wonder the system locks up > and > > goes to 100% CPU, xenhide is preventing Windows from seeing the qemu > > disk(s), and the driver for the xen ones (xenvbd) isn't working. If the > > same problem were encountered, I would drop changes from the snapshot, try > > the new 0.9.11-pre12, and respond to the thread about it with any problems > > and a brief history of your experience thus far (dutch Windows, version of > > Debian, version of Xen, versions of GPLPV tried, issues encountered). He > > may have some more insight on Debian, or he may be able to gather > additional > > information to potentially test or fix your problem if it is related to > the > > Dutch version [I am assuming it is a fully different version, but > truthfully > > I don't know whether it's the same version with a language pack or a > > different version, and neither would surprise me]). Good luck, > > Dustin > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Van > Biesen > > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 05:45 > > To: xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > > Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > > > Hi Dustin, > > > > I found this thread too and I tried without the cdrom devices already. > This > > makes no difference. > > > > I reverted and installed the 0.9.10. I only get "the device was not > plugged > > in" error twice now. The devices still have an exclamation mark in the > > device manager but the "add new hardware" dialog does disappear after a > > while. After reboot, windows seems to hang on the splash screen. I then > > disabled usb ( this is sometimes an issue when hanging on mup.sys ), and > now > > the screen goes black and the domu uses 100% CPU. At the third reboot, I > > select safe mode and behold - windows boots. > > > > When looking in the device manager, only the xen vbd driver had an > > exclamation mark. The network drivers seems to work ( I had now some 10 > > network devices ). I disabled the vdb driver and rebooted. Again a hang on > a > > black screen. > > > > So, basically, after installation of the driver, the only way to get > windows > > back online is to > > 1) disable usb > > 2) boot in safe mode > > > > Maybe I should completely reinstall windows xp ? > > > > Concerning performance : I pick my users carefully. First migrate users > who > > only use mail, browser and occasionally office. They do not need much > > diskperformance, in fact, they do not even know if an application is > running > > on their pc or on the network ( browser ). Once you have a userbase that > is > > satisfied with the performance, migrate a somewhat heavier user. If he > > complains, you can tell him : look, there are 10 users happy why you're > not > > ? This buys you some time to figure the problem out en gets the user off > > your back. This is where I'm now. > > > > Never ever start with power users !! It is my experience that most of the > > userbase don't care where or how their OS is running - even 3/4 of our > > developers don't care, as long as the performance is ok. For the 1/4 > > developers who do care, don't bitch and just give them a standalone > machine. > > It is really a win-win situation with xen, we have the control over the > > hardware while they have control over their windows game console ... er OS > > *cough* :-) . > > > > But definitely need the gplpv drivers to work if I am to migrate most of > my > > users. > > > > Anyway, thanks for the advise. > > > > Peter. > > > > On Tuesday 19 August 2008 14:50:19 Dustin Henning wrote: > > > Peter, > > > OK, first and foremost, I think I forgot to mention this thread in > > > my last response: > > > http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2008-08/msg00428.html > > > I bring it up now because I looked over your config again and noticed > the > > > two CD-ROM drives. It may be that you need to get rid of them as this > may > > > be a new problem with 0.9.11-pre11 (if you really need those images > > mounted > > > in Windows, you might be able to use something like Elby Virtual Clone > > Drive > > > [http://elby.ch/fun/software/index.html] to mount those images from > within > > > the domU, but I don't know if this can be done automatically [might > > require > > > manual remount after each reboot]). > > > I haven't even messed with 0.9.11-preX, I am running 0.9.10. Seeing > > > as how you had problems with it, my only thought is that if the > installer > > > changed for 0.9.11-pre11 vs 0.9.10, you might revert again and try > 0.9.10 > > to > > > see if the add new hardware windows disappear on their own given a bit > of > > > time. I know I've had hanging like that in the past with previous > > versions, > > > and it seems like in some cases waiting long enough would make it work > > > (though not necessarily with the performance the drivers are supposed to > > > provide) and in others I had to restore (or rebuild) Windows, and try > > again, > > > as it used to (and may still) be absolutely crucial that the drivers are > > > installed on a clean system, but I honestly don't remember all the > details > > > here. Alternatively, since 0.9.10 caused your system to hang, you might > > try > > > the suggestion mentioned here on 0.9.11-pre11 (even though the issue > being > > > resolved appears to be unrelated and has potentially been solved in > > pre11): > > > http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2008-08/msg00203.html > > > I think the risk with doing that (disabling the xenhide.sys driver) > > > is that if the system loads the qemu drivers and the gplpv drivers at > the > > > same time you will get massive HD corruption (should not be a big deal > > with > > > a snapshot). However, for the record, I am shooting in the dark on all > > > counts here (I haven't suggested anything I wouldn't try, but that > doesn't > > > mean I haven't suggested some things others wouldn't recommend trying), > so > > > don't get your hopes up. Unless removing the 0.9.10 drivers was done > via > > a > > > method other than reverting to a backup/snapshot (you said removing them > > via > > > device manager and it has always taken more steps than that) or the > > drivers > > > and their installation methods changed quite a bit between 0.9.10 and > > > 0.9.11-pre11 (assuming you didn't get the same error on 0.9.10), the > error > > > ending in "but can't find the device itself" might ultimately have > > something > > > to do with your environment (for instance, perhaps your version of > Windows > > > is different or there is an issue with your version of debian). I think > > > James usually spends more time dealing with his drivers and the list on > > > weekends, so it might be a few days or a couple weeks before you hear > much > > > from him, but unless you luck out somehow, that's probably what it will > > > take. > > > Finally, as an aside, regarding your thread on the performance of > > > the GPLPV drivers, it surprises me that your users haven't complained > > about > > > performance with qemu drivers, they must be easy to please. The > > difference > > > is most certainly noticeable and worth the trouble. > > > Dustin > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Van > > Biesen > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 04:47 > > > To: xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > > > Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > > > > > Hi Dustin, > > > > > > reverting is a matter of seconds, as I am running my domU on a lvm > > snapshot > > > volume. > > > > > > I tried installing again. When I got the new hardware windows, I did > > > nothing, but they did nog go away. So I hit cancel on every one. > > > > > > In the device manager, the xen devices still had the exclamation mark. > > > > > > I then added the /gplpv line in the boot.ini and rebooted. This worked > > fine > > > ! But windows still didn't use the xen drivers ( no change in the > counters > > > in xm top ). The drivers still have the exclamation mark and every time > I > > > reboot I get all the "new hardware" windows again and again. > > > > > > I had installed the 0.9.10 drivers last week, this made windows hang, > but > > > the counters in xm top did go up. > > > > > > I removed all faulty drivers from the device manager and rebooted. When > I > > > then look at the devices, no drivers are installed. I then installed > them > > > one by one and get error : > > > > > > " Windows has loaded the driver in memory, but can't find the device > > itself > > > ( code 41 )" ( this is a translation from dutch ) > > > > > > Any suggestions ? > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > Peter. > > > > > > On Monday 18 August 2008 17:32:37 Dustin Henning wrote: > > > > I don't remember what version this applies to, but at one point, > > > when > > > > installing, I was going through the "new hardware" windows and letting > > > > > Windows install the drivers automatically. I had problems when I did > > > this. > > > > After recovering to a pre GPLPV-installed environment, I ran the > > > > installer again and let it deal with these windows. They eventually > > > > disappeared without me even clicking next and then everything worked > > > > great. I tried this because that is how some Windows driver > > > > installers work (i.e. most mainboard RealTek sound drivers). However, > > > > > this may not help you, as this may have been with an installer for a > > > > previous version that didn't have the "the device is not plugged in, > > > > cannot update driver" error, which I believe was added to prevent > > > confusion when upgrading from one version to another. > > > > Hopefully someone else can come back with more/better information, but > > > > > in the meantime, odds are that you'll need to get to a pre > > > > GPLPV-installed state (restore from backup) and try again, so if > > > > getting back to that state is easy and you want to try the install > > > > again before anyone else responds, just don't interfere with the parts > > > > > of the install that look like they need manual intervention for a > while > > > and see what happens. Good luck, > > > > Dustin > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Van > > > > Biesen > > > > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 09:05 > > > > To: xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > > > > Windows XP > > > > SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I installed a debian xen server using the 3.2 xen hypervisor and the > > > > 2.6.18 xen enabled kernel ( from stable ) x86_64 . I installed a 32bit > > > > > windows xp using hvm. This all worked perfectly. Networking and disk > io > > > work. > > > > > > > > I installed SP1a, SP3 and the .net 2.0 framework. > > > > > > > > I then tried to install the gplpv drivers. I downloaded the > > > > 0.9.11pre11 and installed it. > > > > > > > > While installation, I get "the device is not plugged in, cannot update > > > > > driver" 6 times, installation of the driver seems to work ( windows > > > > complains a couple of times that it cannot verify the drivers are of > > > > its own 'high' standard ). After installation, I get several "new > > > hardware" windows. > > > > I let windows install the default drivers ( which are the gplpv > drivers > > ). > > > > > > > > I then reboot the domU ( without altering the boot.ini ). In the > > > > device manager, the vbd xen devices and the xen net device all have a > > > > exclamation mark on them. The only xen device working without problems > > > > > is "xen pci device driver". > > > > > > > > All drivers have the same error : Code 12 : insufficient free > > > > resources ( its a dutch installation, so this is a translation ). > > > > > > > > When I edit the boot.ini to add the /gplpv and boot with that, I get > > > > een BSOD on Mup.sys. > > > > > > > > Here's my config. Strangely enough, I do not need to put any ioemu > > > > stuff in the file for windows to boot ( maybe this is new in 3.2 ? ): > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > kernel = "/usr/lib/xen-default/boot/hvmloader" > > > > builder='hvm' > > > > memory = 512 > > > > name = "windows2" > > > > disk = [ > > > > 'phy:/dev/vg00/windows2-snap,hda,w','file:/root/winxp-nl-setup-Q6TD9-9 > > > > FMQ3-F > > > > RVF4-VPF7Y-38JV3.iso,hdc:cdrom,r','file:/root/wintemp.iso,hdd:cdrom,r' > > > > , ] vif = [ 'bridge=eth0,mac=00:16:3E:00:02:01', ] device_model = > > > > '/usr/lib/xen-default/bin/qemu-dm' > > > > > > > > boot='cd' > > > > sdl=0 > > > > vnc=1 > > > > vnclisten="0.0.0.0" > > > > vncunused=1 > > > > acpi=1 > > > > apic=0 > > > > pae=1 > > > > usb = 1 > > > > usbdevice = 'tablet' > > > > #serial="pty" > > > > ---------------------------------- > > > > > > > > Does anybody have an idea of what could be wrong ? > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > > > Peter. > > > > -- > > > > Peter Van Biesen > > > > Sysadmin VAPH > > > > > > > > tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 > > > > fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 > > > > e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@xxxxxxx > > > > PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Xen-users mailing list > > > > Xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Peter Van Biesen > > > Sysadmin VAPH > > > > > > tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 > > > fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 > > > e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@xxxxxxx > > > PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Xen-users mailing list > > > Xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Peter Van Biesen Sysadmin VAPH tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@xxxxxxx PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys Opgelet ! 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