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Re: [Publicity] Blog post: OSSTest Standalone Mode Step by Step

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:50:02AM +0100, George Dunlap wrote:
> On 25/09/13 21:58, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> >On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 02:17:03PM +0100, Wei Liu wrote:
> >>On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 12:34:04PM +0100, Lars Kurth wrote:
> >>>Wei,
> >>>
> >>>thanks. I will leave it to others to comment. Would you be willing to put
> >>>together a wiki page based on the post and post to xen-devel? I had a
> >>Yes, sure.
> >>
> >>>conversation with IanC at LinuxCon about the lack of people using OSS Test.
> >>>I believe the two main reasons for the lack of pick-up so far are:
> >>>a) It is unclear how to build OSS Test into the dev routine (this post +
> >>>wiki should address this)
> >>I think it can address part of the problem, but not all of it. There're
> >>still lots of details I'm not able to go into in a single post.
> >>
> >>The sole purpose of this post is to help people bootstrap using OSSTest.
> >>Once they're en route they're pretty much on their own and everything
> >>boils down to "read the source code".
> >It does detract from the Xen RT which long-term ought to be used (IMHO).
> >
> >As it has a ton of features that can help in making Xen and Linux
> >work fantasticly well  - and catch not only bootup/bug regressions
> >but also performance regressions.
> With due respect to Alex and the XenRT team for the work they've
> done, XenRT is not actually a public project yet.  Tossing a tarball
> over the wall is not making an open project.  And I haven't looked
> at it, but I suspect it's not in a shape ready to just be picked up
> and used by the average developer just yet.
> The thinking here was:
> * It may be 6 months to a yeas before XenRT is ready to replace osstest
> * There is a small chance that the XenRT thing may not actually come about

I hope not.
> * Work done and skills gained writing tests for osstest wouldn't be
> wasted -- having implemented tests in osstest should make it easier
> for people to implement the same test (or different tests) in XenRT.
> So we were planning on continuing to develop osstest until XenRT was
> ready to take over, as the risk of doing so is low and the benefits
> are solid.
> It occurs to me that for the osstest->XenRT transition, a first step
> would be to get XenRT running on the xenproject.org testbed. That
> will help shake out all the random assumptions about the environment
> that may have ended up baked into the code.  We should probably try
> to touch base with the XenRT team about that, after IanJ comes back
> from holiday.

I completly get the short term - we need osstest, long term lets look
at Xen RT. Perhaps the blog can mention Xen RT as the more longterm
transition and enumerate some of the things it does?
>  -George

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