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Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v2 2/3] x86/ioreq server: Rename p2m_mmio_write_dm to p2m_ioreq_server





On 4/21/2016 9:31 PM, Paul Durrant wrote:
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Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v2 2/3] x86/ioreq server: Rename
p2m_mmio_write_dm to p2m_ioreq_server



On 4/21/2016 1:06 AM, George Dunlap wrote:
On 20/04/16 17:58, Paul Durrant wrote:
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Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v2 2/3] x86/ioreq server: Rename
p2m_mmio_write_dm to p2m_ioreq_server

George Dunlap <george.dunlap@xxxxxxxxxx> 04/20/16 6:30 PM >>>
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 4:02 PM, George Dunlap
<george.dunlap@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 19/04/16 12:02, Yu, Zhang wrote:
So I suppose the only place we need change for this patch is
for hvmmem_type_t, which should be defined like this?

typedef enum {
    HVMMEM_ram_rw,             /* Normal read/write guest RAM */
    HVMMEM_ram_ro,             /* Read-only; writes are discarded */
    HVMMEM_mmio_dm,            /* Reads and write go to the device
model */
#if __XEN_INTERFACE_VERSION__ >= 0x00040700
    HVMMEM_ioreq_server
#else
    HVMMEM_mmio_write_dm
#endif
} hvmmem_type_t;

Besides, does 4.7 still accept freeze exception? It would be great
if we can get an approval for this.

Wait, do we *actually* need this?  Is anyone actually using this?

I'd say remove it, and if anyone complains, *then* do the #ifdef'ery
as
a bug-fix.  I'm pretty sure that's Linux's policy -- You Must Keep
Userspace Working, but you can break it to see if anyone complains
first.

We don't normally do it like that - we aim at keeping things compatible
right away. I don't know of a case where we would have knowingly
broken
compatibility for users of the public headers (leaving aside tool stack only
stuff of course).

Going further than this:

The proposed patch series not only changes the name, it changes the
functionality.  We do not want code to *compile* against 4.7 and then
not *work* against 4.7; and the worst of all is to compile and sort of
work but do it incorrectly.

I had the impression that the renaming patch was what it is - a renaming
patch, without altering behavior.

Does the ioreq server have a way of asking Xen what version of the ABI
it's providing?  I'm assuming the answer is "no"; in which case code
that is compiled against the 4.6 interface but run on a 4.8 interface
that looks like this will fail in a somewhat unpredictable way.

The only thing it can do is ask for the Xen version. The ABI version is not
being returned by anything (but perhaps should be).

Given that:

1. When we do check the ioreq server functionality in, what's the
correct way to deal with code that wants to use the old interface, and
what do we do with code compiled against the old interface but
running
on the new one?

For the full series I'm not sure I can really tell.But as said, for the rename
patch alone I thought it is just a rename. And that's what we want to get
in (see Paul's earlier reply - he wants to see the old name gone, so it
won't
be used any further).

2. What's the best thing to do for this release?

If the entire series (no matter whether to go in now or later) is changing
behavior, then the only choice is to consider the currently used enum
value burnt, and use a fresh one for the new semantics.

It sounds like that would be best way. If we don't so that then we have to
maintain the write-dm semantics for pages of that type unless the type is
claimed (by using the new hypercall) and that's bit icky. I much prefer that
pages of the new type are treated as RAM until claimed.

I think the only sensible way to keep the enum is to also keep the
functionality, which would mean using *another* p2m type for
ioreq_server.

Given that the functionality isn't going away for 4.7, I don't see an
urgent need to remove the enum; but if Paul does, then a patch renaming
it to HVMMEM_unused would be the way forward then I guess.  Once the
underlying p2m type goes away, you'll want to return -EINVAL for this
enum value.


So the enum would be sth. like this?

typedef enum {
     HVMMEM_ram_rw,        /* Normal read/write guest RAM */
     HVMMEM_ram_ro,        /* Read-only; writes are discarded */
     HVMMEM_mmio_dm,       /* Reads and write go to the device model */
#if __XEN_INTERFACE_VERSION__ < 0x00040700
     HVMMEM_mmio_write_dm, /* Read-only; writes go to the device model
*/
#else
     HVMMEM_unused,
#endif
     HVMMEM_ioreq_server
} hvmmem_type_t;


I believe that's correct, but presumably there's need to be a change to the 
hypervisor since any reference there to HVMMEM_mmio_write_dm (which I think is 
limited to the get and set mem type code in hvm.c) will now need to map 
HVMMEM_unused to the old p2m_mmio_write_dm type.

Thank you, Paul.

But p2m_mmio_write_dm will not exist any more...
E.g. if in hvmop_get_mem_type(), if type 0xf(p2m_ioreq_server) is
returned, we could just return HVMMEM_ioreq_server. No need to
worry about the HVMMEM_mmio_write_dm.

Maybe we only need to change the beginning of hvmop_set_mem_type()
to sth. like this:

/* Interface types to internal p2m types */
static const p2m_type_t memtype[] = {
    [HVMMEM_ram_rw]  = p2m_ram_rw,
    [HVMMEM_ram_ro]  = p2m_ram_ro,
    [HVMMEM_mmio_dm] = p2m_mmio_dm,
    [HVMMEM_unused] = p2m_invalid,  /* this will be rejected later */
    [HVMMEM_ioreq_server] = p2m_ioreq_server
};
and later in the same routine, just reject the HVMMEM_unused type, in
an if(with unlikely) statement.

  Paul

B.R.
Yu

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