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Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC] x86emul: unconditionally deliver #UD for LWP insns
- To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@xxxxxxxx>
- From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 10:30:17 +0100
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On 18/07/2019 10:18, Jan Beulich wrote:
> On 17.07.2019 19:09, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>> On 17/07/2019 14:07, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>> On 17.07.2019 13:42, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>>>> On 17/07/2019 07:42, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>> With AMD apparently having abandoned XOP encoded insns, another option
>>>>> would seem to be to simply wire all unrecognized ones into #UD (rather
>>>>> then returning UNIMPLEMENTED/UNRECOGNIZED).
>>>> There are still some XOP instructions which actually work on Fam17h
>>>> processors, if you ignore CPUID and go blindly executing.
>>>>
>>>> Given no official statement that XOP is dead, I'd keep the support we
>>>> currently have.
>>> Then my remark wasn't clear enough: I'm not suggesting to rip out
>>> XOP insn support we have. I'm instead considering whether to wire
>>> all unsupported XOP encodings into #UD (rather than return
>>> UNIMPLEMENTED/UNRECOGNIZED for them), not just the LWP ones.
>> Ah, in which case, no. Turning all unknown instructions into
>> EXCEPTION/#UD will break introspection, which uses UNRECOGNISED to cover
>> the gaps in the emulator by single-stepping the vcpu.
> But there are no gaps:
[F]XSAVE et al, VT-x, SVM to name several gaps.
Not to mention running current versions of Xen on newer hardware.
> The only ones we didn't cover (afaik) were the
> LWP ones, and those would get made raise #UD by the patch here anyway.
> If there are really opcodes where "unrecognized" is relevant, then we
> should special case _those_ imo, rather than leaving an opcode space
> which apparently won't see further extensions all go the "unrecognized"
> route.
In terms of "not crashing the guest", it is very important to know if
there are instructions which are accepted by the pipeline, trap for an
access violation, and that x86_emulate() doesn't know about.
If we do emulation support perfectly, along with CPUID feature handling
etc, then this set should be 0, but it is still nonzero even with this
patch.
For instructions we know about, and know that we told the guest it
couldn't use, then #UD is fine and correct to do. Given that
approximately all of access violations are well-formed non-malicious
code, then an instruction which x86_emulate() doesn't know about is most
likely a hole or a CPUID handling issue. Either way, blindly converting
this to #UD is not the appropriate course of action.
~Andrew
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