Re: [Xen-users] Xen without the X

[Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel@xxxxxxxxx>]

Shane D. Johnson wrote:
> Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> > Shane D. Johnson wrote:
> > > Nico,
> > >
> > > I am trying to build a minimal server with Apache and Qmail(Most 
> > > likely) in separate domains with only the programs and services 
> > > necessary to run these programs on each domain.  I am doing this to 
> > > keep the disk space small (for performance and backup), the 
> > > performance high , and the security threats down (only have running 
> > > what you need).
> > > Thanks
> > > Shane
> > >
> > > Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> > > > Shane D. Johnson wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >    I need some help please.
> > > > >    I want to compile xen-3.1.0 for use on a server that doesn't 
> > > > > have X11 or Xorg installed.  I would like to control the servers 
> > > > > through SSH and Telnet (unless you have a suggestion for something 
> > > > > better (more Secure)).  I wouldn't be using VNC or Console(Unless 
> > > > > I have to).  I have made the kernels and now only need the tools 
> > > > > to control xen.
> > > > >    I have searched the internet and asked for help before(And seen 
> > > > > others ask) but can't seem to find the Documentation or help I 
> > > > > need to only compile the needed components.  If anyone could point 
> > > > > me in the right direction I would appreciate it.    If I need to 
> > > > > take this to a different list please let me know.
> > > > > Thank you
> > > > > Shane
> > > > Why do you want to do this? Unweaving the X requirements for the 
> > > > VNC or SDL graphical console support sounds like a great deal of pain.
> > Ahh. Not an unusual approach, but resolving the compilation 
> > dependencies sounds quite painful.
> > Do not use telnet. Spending all that work on security, then using 
> > telnet, is like picking a 37-character mixed case password and then 
> > taping it to your monitor because you can't remember it: it rather 
> > defeats the purpose.
> > It may be possible to compile, then rip out the X installation over 
> > the objections of the Xen dependencies. Have you tried that?
> Nico,
>    Not sure if this is what you mean or not but here is what I have 
> tried..... I did the make world (Which failed of course.) I then did a 
> make linux-2.6-xen0-config CONFIGMETHOD=menuconfig etc. and got the 
> kernel to build successfully.  I then did cd into each directory and 
> down as far as I could to make each tool I wanted individually and the 
> make would always fail with the X dependency problems.  I am going to 
> try it again tonight to see if I can get it work work this way.  Is 
> there a way to turn off the building of programs I don't want ?  (ex. 
> --without-console --without-vnc)
Dude, you're doing package management and dependency management 
*MANUALLY*? For cripes sake, why not use a reasonable package management 
system like apt or RPM?
I've not tried to turn off the various console access utilities: you'd 
have to read the autoconf and Makefile options to see what is available.
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